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490 | Why Is the Sandwich Generation Trapped in Wealth Limbo?

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The Sandwich Generation is stuck in a wealth limbo where “it seems impossible to get past 1 to 2 properties”, says TPC listener MC. But who are this group of investors, and why are they finding themselves in this property purgatory? 💸 

In today’s episode, we explore how to get creative to escape wealth limbo, the #1 thing you shouldn’t do for those going through a breakup and pose the question… 

Would you stop paying 10c at the risk of not earning $1?  

This question paints the tip of the iceberg for today’s discussion into a battle that looks increasingly akin to David and Goliath as the government continues to stop $3B worth of incentives for property investors… 

The truth is in the pudding (or, more specifically, the Australian Taxation Office’s data): for the first time in recorded history, rental stock is declining.  

It’s an alarming and insightful episode that will open your eyes to the many hurdles property investors must overcome.  

Give it a listen now, folks 😊  

 

P.S. Were you in wealth limbo or are you part of the Sandwich Generation? Send us a message on our SpeakPipe; we want to know you overcome these issues!  

 

Free Stuff Mentioned

  • 2024 TPC Survey Now Open!
    Let us know what we should start, stop and keep doing and as our thanks to you, we’ll give you a Case Study Series Unpacked for FREE (usually $297). Plus, the top #5 most insightful answers will win a $100 gift card. Share your thoughts now >>   
  • Free Book: Make Money Simple Again  
  • Free Money Management Platform: Moorr 
  • Are you part of the Sandwich Generation? We want you to be part of our 2025 Summer Series! Reach out to Bryce on Instagram or through our SpeakPipe  (And get a free Start & Build course if you make an appearance!)  
  • The first time in recorded Australian History: Rental stock is going backwards and the latest ATO data. Watch this Episode on YouTube to see these insightful graphs >>  
  • Bryce’s Lifehack: iPhone stickers can help you plan your outfit! >>  
  • Ben’s “What’s Making Property News”: Read Domain’s March 2024 Rental Report >>  
  • Guests & Episodes Mentioned:  
    • 376 | It’s never too late to start: How he’s on track for a $2k/week passive income! – Chat with Steve  
    • 382 | “Property Investors are Tired of Being the ATMs for the State!” – Chat with Antonia Mercorella  
    • 401 | How Old is Too Old?! Refinancing, Retiring Debt & Starting Later in Life 
    • 454 | How to Create a $5.54M Portfolio in Your 50s – Chat with Tom Dekker 
    • 473 | Juggling Teenagers, Divorce, and 4 Properties: How This Single Mum Conquered Her Financial Pain – Chat with Leisa 

 

Comments & Questions

Listener Comment from Tom: 

Hi Ben and Bryce,

Loving the content after listening for more than 3 years.

There is currently a lot of noise in the media and social platforms about how us greedy investors are pushing up house prices and rents as well as rolling in wealth as a result of the negative gearing and capital gains tax rules which I believe need to be clarified for everyday Aussies and certainly for the politicians who are using this agenda for their own political benefit.

As a property investor, I have and will continue to work as diligently as possible to pay tax on my rental properties every year. Yes this is my goal!

For the past 3 years, I have had the privilege of paying tax on income received from my rental properties although this may change in the coming year as a result of interest rates and increased costs to hold the properties.

Negative Gearing is a safety net for the investor which supports reducing the “loss” it does not create a windfall at all and simply means that if for example I made a loss of $10,000 on rental properties in a year and I am on the top marginal tax rate, my loss is reduced by up to $4,700.

I am still making a loss whilst providing accommodation so I am a little confused by the politicians assumption that we buy property just so that we can claim back some tax and lose money. Makes little sense and it is my view that removal of this safety net will simply increase the cost of rents.

Capital gains tax discount which was brought in to replace indexing and based on my research, the impact (difference between before and after capital gains tax discount) is actually in favour of going back to the indexing model where investors made slightly more.

I am proud to be a property investor providing good, safe and as affordable as possible accommodation for my tenants and whilst I accept that I cannot always make money on the rents collected, I am ultimately doing this to support myself and my family in retirement where I will most likely continue to pay tax on rental income happily until my final breath.

Seems to me that the politicians want me to reconsider and live off the government in my retirement rather than contribute!

The record needs to be set straight on the greens agenda. The Greens were for the environment when it was top of the social media charts but now suddenly they are the anti-investors party because this has a higher profile.

We as a group of investors need to create a voice that helps inform all people of the facts rather than the political BS!  I would pay to watch or listen to you guys interviewing one of these politicians!

Perhaps by putting everyone straight, we can get the focus back on to the priority which is increasing supply and improving vacancy rates rather than pointing fingers.

Keep up the great work gents!

Tom

 

Question on Sandwich Generation of Women from MC:

I’m keen to hear from single women (and men) who didn’t start investing till their 40s. There are so many of us! It’s a real feature of my generation.

A lot of the single women you’ve had on your program started their investment journey before 2017, so were able to buy multiple properties with equity and before the serviceability constraints came in.

If you’re a single female on a middle income today, don’t have parental assistance or any kind of inherited wealth, and you start investing a bit later, it seems impossible to get past 1 to 2 properties.

I’m keen to hear others who might have done that in today’s environment, especially how they’ve met and creatively dealt with serviceability challenges.

For what it’s worth, I think there’s a large, sandwich generation of women who never married, but whose parents never bothered to educate them about property because they just assumed it was a ladder they’d start climbing once they got married and had children.

But that hasn’t happened, so they’re in a kind of wealth limbo. I know so many people in this situation! I’m also just keen to hear more from people who started their investment journey late – age 40+ – in general and to hear what they’ve been able to achieve.

Cheers and thanks for your terrific program!

 

Timestamps

  • 0:00 – Why Is the Sandwich Generation Trapped in Wealth Limbo? 
  • 1:35 – Tell us what you want to hear! >>  
  • 4:27 – Mindset Minute: How to Stop the Toxic Cycle of Overthinking  
  • 9:27 – Previous Summer Series Guest: Negative Gearing is Still Loss Making  
  • 13:57 – Property just isn’t stacking up anymore for the investor… 
  • 18:27 – A Letter to the QLD Parliament from A Property Investor 
  • 22:01 – The first time in recorded Australian history: Rental stock is going backwards?!  
  • 26:09 – It’s David vs. Goliath: Giving the investor a voice  
  • 32:13 – Would you stop paying 10c at the risk of not earning $1?  
  • 38:31 – If you stop the $3B incentives, you have to accept the unintended consequences…  
  • 43:40 – Q1) Sandwich Generation of Women from MC   
  • 46:14 – You need 2 essential things to invest in property  
  • 48:55 – “Don’t think about investments, think about stabilisation”  
  • 51:00 – Why Bryce likes listening to success stories  
  • 53:57 – Get creative to get out of the wealth limbo 
  • 57:09 – Going through a breakup? Don’t do THIS  
  • 1:02:19 – Encore Comment: “You’ll be given a generous referral fee of $10,000 plus GST for each successful referral.” 🙄 
  • 1:06:48 – Behind-the-scenes of how the referral game works   

And… 

  • 1:11:18 – Lifehack: iPhone stickers can help you plan your outfit   
  • 1:13:55 – WMPN: Quarterly Rents: We predict VIC will be top soon…

 

Rentvesting – Is Rent Money Dead Money?

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Note: This episode is a re-run of one of our older episodes. It originally aired on 14th April 2016 😊  

In today’s episode, we tackle the increasingly popular strategy of ‘rentvesting’.  

As we see soaring property prices in major urban hubs, the dream of homeownership seems further out of reach for many. But is there a savvy way to balance that dream with reality? 

Enter ‘rentvesting’ – where you rent in the place you love…and invest where you can afford. 

Rentvesting is a smart solution that can offer freedom, tax perks, and a wealth-building shortcut, but can you handle the emotional trade-offs?  

 

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Previous Episodes/Guests Mentioned

Margaret Lomas 

  • Ep 150: How This Mother of 5 Turned $80,000 into a Multimillion Dollar Property Empire 
  • Ep 216: Everything You Need to Know to Invest! 

 

Timestamps

  • 0:00 – Rentvesting – Is Rent Money Dead Money? 
  • 4:47 – How did rentvesting come about? 
  • 7:31 – Real life case study 🔍 
  • 10:51 – The pros & cons of rentvesting 
  • 23:44 – Our views on negative gearing 

 

489 | The Rise of the Finfluencer: Who’s at Risk?

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Ever find yourself double-tapping a Finfluencer’s post and thinking, “Is this legit?”  

You’re not alone. We all love a good financial glow-up story, but discerning sound advice from dangerous schemes is becoming harder online.  

That’s why, in this week’s episode, we’re diving into the fast-paced world of financial influencers. 

 From the six red flags to spot a Finfluencer in a sea of seemingly harmless finance feeds to understanding why “pay interest only” tips are just the tip of the iceberg, tune in to discover who’s most likely at risk of being stung by these Finfluencers and, more importantly, how to avoid it. 

 Listen now to learn how to navigate today’s complex Finfluencer landscape.  

 

Free Stuff Mentioned

  • Tell us what you want to hear & get our FREE Case Studies Unpacked Series! (RRP $297)
    Our 2024 TPC Survey is now open! Tell us what you’d like us to start, stop and keep doing in our short survey. All you need to do is tick a few boxes and let us know how we can keep providing the best, most relatable content this year.
    And as our thanks to you, we’re giving every person who shares their thoughts a Case Study Series Unpacked for FREE (usually $297). Plus, the top #5 most insightful answers will win a $100 gift card. Share your thoughts now >>  
  • Want us to tackle a topic? Reach out to Bryce on Instagram or through our SpeakPipe. (And get a free Start & Build course if your Q is featured!)   
  • Resources from Ben’s “What’s Making Property News”:  

 

Timestamps

  • 0:00 – The Rise of the Finfluencer: Who’s at Risk? 
  • 3:46 – Tell us what you want to hear this year!  
  • 6:26 – Mindset Minute: History never repeats itself, man always does 
  • 7:40 – The listener Q which started this episode (Thanks, Jen!)  
  • 9:35 – The Evolution of the Finfluencer  
  • 12:10 – What is a Finfluencer?  
  • 13:43 – Here’s how to spot one!  
  • 14:32 – The #6 ways Finfluencers differ from traditional financial advisors:
    1. A_ ce_s_b_li_ _ 
  • 16:03 – 2. P_a_ _o_m 
  • 17:31 – 3. Re_u_a_ _on 
  • 18:25 – 4. E_p_r_ise & C_ede_ _ials 
  • 22:53 – 5. Co_pe_sa_ _on 
  • 25:20 – 6. Pe_ _on_li_a_ _on 
  • 29:19 – Beware credit advice!  
  • 31:11 – Who’s at risk of being stung by a Finfluencers?  
  • 32:19 – How Finfluencers measure success 
  • 32:52 – The 2 groups at greatest risk 
  • 37:19 – Why are they so effective?  
  • 40:17 – #6 Finfluence Red Flags: 1. “Too Good to Be ____”  
  • 43:42 – 2. Hard ____  
  • 46:14 – 3. Lack of ____ 
  • 47:20 – 4. High ____ Strategies  
  • 50:27 – 5. Emphasis on ____ ____ Gains  
  • 52:55 – 6. Hero not the ______ 
  • 56:36 – ASIC & Finfluencers  
  • 1:00:20 – The difficulties monitoring Finfluencers  
  • 1:02:40 – The Downfall of the ASX Wolf  
  • 1:09:20 – Why property is the playground for the spruiker  
  • 1:14:00 – The #3 Ps you should practice going forward  
  • 1:19:29 – Final Word: “Sniff Test” our podcast folks! 
  • 1:21:30 – What we stand for  
  • 1:27:32 – Have a topic you want us to tackle? Let us know!  

And… 

  • 1:28:49 – Lifehack: Got a boarding pass? Try this plane lifehack 
  • 1:30:46 – WMPN:  Where are Australians flocking to? Interstate population growth  

 

488 | Buying Regional vs. City: Does It Stack Up?

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When investing in property, choosing WHERE to invest often keeps folks up at night. That’s why, in today’s Q&A Day, we are answering questions that speak to this very issue. 

Here’s what we’re unpacking:  

Why choose to invest regional over city? (Tune in to 1:02:10 to hear Ben poise a riddle to the community. Oh, and send us your replies through our SpeakPipe! 😉)  

From the multi-layered factors to consider BEFORE buying in the country to whether Gary (today’s question asker) has made the right decision to invest in Ballarat, we’re uncovering the one question that investing regional boils down to.   

Plus, we answer what elements make a town a mining town, the biggest risks associated with investing in these “boom and bust” areas, and our case for why we avoid investing in Canberra!  

It’s an episode loaded with nuggets of wisdom, tune in now folks! 😊 

 

P.S. As market conditions change, we’ve been noticing some concerning ads popping up, which is why we’re sitting down to unpack: What does modern-day spruiking look like?  

 

Free Stuff Mentioned

  • Leave us a Q for our next Q&A Day! Reach out to Bryce on Instagram or through our SpeakPipe. (And get a free Start & Build course if your Q is featured!)    
  • Free Money Management Platform: Moorr  
  • Episodes Mentioned:  
    • TPC Binge Guide (First 20 Episodes of our most fundamental lessons!)  
    • 256 | From Gold Mine To Fool’s Gold: How This Property Investor Nearly Lost It All During The WA Mining Boom! – Chat with Rick Hockey 
    • 418 | The Hidden Forces Driving Property Values 
    • 474 | From Childhood Stocks to City Shocks: How He Escaped Bad Investing Advice! – Chat with Bailey 
    • 484 | Cracking the Code: Mastering the 60% Land to Asset Ratio 
  • Graphs from Ben’s “What’s Making Property News”:  

Questions We Answer…

Q1) Investment Property in Canberra from Jenna  

“Love the show. I have listened to every episode. A bit of a fan. I’ve done your property plan through EW. I have used to mortgage broking services, your BA services and your accounting services. 

Thank you for all the information and services that you provide. 

I have two questions today and it is specifically related to my situation, but I think a few of your listeners we’ll have similar questions. 

To begin with the background, my partner and I had our PPOR currently sitting at around 490,000 on our mortgage remaining 300,000 in equity.  That 490 includes a $100,000 equity release, which we used to buy and investment property in the South Brisbane.  

My biggest question is based around the fact that our PPOR is located in Canberra. I’ve listened to you guys for several years and specifically on your more recent podcasts. 

You reiterate that you despise having an investment property in Canberra. 

Our PPOR is not our forever home, but we would be happy here for another four or five years. Our original plan was to transition our PPOR into an IP and I guess my question is, would you still recommend this? 

For more context, our mortgage is currently about $2,400 a month and being very concerned if we could get up to $2,500 even $3,500 a month in rent understanding that there’s a complication for land tax.  

My question is what would you do with this house sell? or turn it into investment property? 

My second question as I believe I know what your answer will be to the first question is what happens to the equity release against our current PPOR if we sell? 

Will we need to pay this off? Or can we leave it as is as the interest is tax deductible? 

Thanks guys.  Love your work.”  

 

Q2) What is considered a mining town? from Jenny 

“Hi Ben and Bryce, Jenny here. 

Thank you for the invaluable content over the years. Without the education provided in your poddies, we would never have embarked on our property investment journey. 

I have a few questions regarding mining towns, which I believe the Community can benefit from. 

We do not invest in mining towns as two wise men have informed us over the years, but which towns are considered mining towns and how do you work this out? 

Is it just the suburb where the mining actually takes place? Or does it extend to surrounding suburbs 

Would you look to ABS data to see the percentage level of residents who are employed in the mining industry? 

And if so, would say anything over 5% of the population working in the mining sector, then make that Suburb a mining town. The wisdom on this will be greatly appreciated.
Thanks boys.”  

 

Q3) Regional Properties from Gary   

“Hi Bryce and Ben, 

My name is Gary I live in Spotswood, West of Melbourne. I’ve just got a question I’d like to ask you about regional properties.  

Two years ago, I went through our financial planner and bought his agent and got a three-bedroom house in Ballarat North just outside Melbourne. And my question was that there’s been a lot of talk regarding regional properties versus sort of properties near the CBD. 

Now, I just wanted to get your thoughts on what you class as a good regional property because especially in Victoria, we have regional areas such as Geelong, Ballarat, and Bendigo a bit and they’re not exactly what I call small, they have a lot of amenities, a lot of industry, and job creation out there.

But I just find that when you read information quite vague about regional properties, they say they don’t do as well as in the city and they obviously at the moment they’re not increased as much as they’re near the inner city. 

But I’m just interested to see your thoughts and maybe have a bit of a deeper look or a deeper dive into the regional market as we like. 

I think we’d like to focus on the inner cities and central CBD’s in Melbourne and Sydney. 

It’ll be good to hear your thoughts on that. 

Thank you.”  

 

Timestamps

  • 0:00 – Buying Regional vs. City: Does It Stack Up? 
  • 1:43 – Ben’s stopped sweating 😉  
  • 3:12 – Warning: THIS is what Modern Day Spruiking looks like   
  • 7:04 – Where modern spruiking happens & why it’s so successful 🙁  
  • 10:18 – What kind of investor are you?  
  • 15:27 – From the Coalface: 8 of 12 tenants moving because landlords are selling up   
  • 18:25 – Mindset Minute: “There is never anything to do, but always action to take.” 
  • 22:36 – As a property investor, what practical action can you take?  
  • 24:13 – Q1) Investment Property in Canberra  
  • 26:29 – Hold or move into another market?   
  • 30:50 – The science behind NOT investing in Canberra  
  • 34:25 – Beware of regulatory risks: How holding costs are disincentivising investors  
  • 37:41 –  If you’ve built a portfolio in Canberra, let us know how you’ve done it!  
  • 38:36 – How is my loan transferred if I sell the property?  
  • 40:55 – The Stand-Alone Scenario 
  • 45:42 – Q2) What is considered a mining town? 
  • 46:43 – The risk with mining towns  
  • 51:10 – Is Perth a mining town?  
  • 53:04 – Why Perth is heading towards a golden era  
  • 58:10 – Q3) Regional Properties 
  • 59:40 –  Not all regional properties are created equal 
  • 1:00:57 – We need to acknowledge this for the next generation of investors  
  • 1:02:10 – “Will regional land grow higher than the city?” 
  • 1:06:34 –  Ben and Bryce have both bought regional!  
  • 1:09:45 – Historically, regional has been great for yield 
  • 1:10:29 – It comes down to the M___ of S____  
  • 1:12:48 –  Consider these factors when buying regional!  

And… 

  • 1:17:14 – Lifehack: Make Decisions like Jeff Bezos 
  • 1:22:53 – WMPN: House Price Movements across Australia   

 

I Bought the Wrong Property; What Should I Do Now?

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Note: This episode is a re-run of one of our older episodes. It originally aired on 2nd July 2020 😊  

In this week’s episode, Bryce and Ben answer 10 listeners’ questions! 

With practical advice on property selection and analysis, this episode is your guide to navigating the intricacies of property investment in Australia. 

If you have a question, leave us a message here!  

If we answer it on the podcast, you’ll get FREE access to our Start & Build Workshop (usually retails for $497!!). This online course is a deep dive on the foundations, framework and everything else you need to know on how to build your very own property portfolio. 

  

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Previous Episodes/Guests Mentioned

  • Peter Koulizos 
    • Ep 241: 12 Steps to a Profitable Property Development  
  • Jane Slack-Smith 
    • Ep 61: Property Education and Renovating for Profit 
    • Ep 213: How to Adjust Your Renovation Strategy 
  • Naomi Findlay 
    • Ep 188: What’s Renovating Got to Do with Dating? 
  • Household names from The Block 
    • Ep 110 (Part 1) & Ep 110 (Part 2): Meet Frank Valentic from The Block! 
    • Ep 132: Josh & Jenna – This Bickering Couple and their Tiny House Movement in Australia 
    • Ep 284: Kyal & Kara – How to Renovate, Raise Kids, Run a Business & Not Lose Your Mind in the Process 

 

Timestamps

  • 0:00 – I Bought the Wrong Property; What Should I Do Now? 
  • 5:56 – Proposal submission for review of WA tenancy laws [Editor’s Note: The review has since concluded; June 2023 update here]. 
  • 9:43 – Mindset Minute: Be coachable!
  • 15:20 – Q1: I want to buy in a location I love and am familiar with, but it is poorly diversified. How do I mitigate the risks? 
  • 22:10 – Q2: How important are historical growth rates?
  • 29:15 – Q3: I want to invest interstate. Should I look for a local Buyer’s Agent or one who operates nationwide? 
  • 30:39 – Our sister company wins an award! 
  • 41:29 – Q4: Is it better to prioritise high yield or high growth?
  • 46:45 – Q5: Should I move into my rental property? 
  • 52:52 – Q6: Is it worth getting an average property in a good suburb if I’m planning to hold for the long term? 
  • 57:18 – Q7: Thoughts on buying Defence Housing Australia projects? 
  • 1:03:18 – Q8: What do you think about active investing – buying to subdivide, fixer uppers, etc.? 
  • 1:07:02 – Q9: I bought a ‘House and Land Package’ before I was educated. What can I do now to ensure growth? 
  • 1:10:18 – Q10: Is putting a granny flat out the back a good idea when retiring out the debt? 
  • 1:11:55 – Sort out the basics of money management before you invest! 

 

Going Against the Greats – Why You Shouldn’t Pay Yourself First!

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Note: This episode is a re-run of one of our older episodes. It originally aired on 8th June 2017 😊  

According to Albert Einstein, “Compound interest is the eighth wonder of the world. He who understands it, earns it…and he who doesn’t, pays it.” 

In this week’s episode, Bryce and Ben discuss the fascinating power of compounding. 

Tune is as they answer listeners’ questions, explain how you benefit from delayed gratification, and share their experiences and advice on property investing! 

   

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Additional Resources

 

Timestamps

    • 0:00 – Going Against the Greats – Why You Shouldn’t Pay Yourself First 
    • 4:35 – Tom Panos: “80% of winning is beginning” 
    • 5:58 – Mastering the power of money 
    • 6:56 – Listener Question #1 – Chris 
    • 9:09 – Would you prefer $1,000,000 now, or $0.01 today and double it every day for 30 days? 
    • 18:51 – The benefits of delayed gratification 
    • 24:25 – Leverage is the independent umpire 
    • 27:04 – Dud = dead on arrival? 
    • 30:17 – Listener Question #2 – Greg 
    • 30:33 – Why you shouldn’t pay yourself first! 
    • 32:51 – The plastic money world 
    • 33:42 – MoneySMARTS – the holistic approach to managing your money 
    • 36:46 – Ultimately, it’s about making sure you are enjoying life! 
    • 38:16 – The cup size theory… 
    • 40:33 – Plan to become what you plan to become 
    • 42:05 – Advice from Ben & Bryce on whether you should invest in the current market! 
    • 44:10 – LocationScore 
    • 47:22 – Bryce’s Life Hack 

 

486 | “Stuff This!”: How to Tackle Financial Anxiety

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PLEASE NOTE: We have changed the names of the folks in these case studies.  

 We’ve all experienced the gut-wrenching anxiety that comes with property investing, and it’s a natural response considering the huge sums of money and extensive time involved.  

But what happens when it becomes an overwhelming feeling that wakes you up at 2am?  

Folks, this is a REAL story from today’s honest and inspirational Case Study episode.  

From Billy, a single dad holding onto his ambition to secure a future for his son amidst personal and financial upheaval, to Liz and Michael, a couple who found themselves constantly fighting their financial fears.  

Hear how these investors confronted their anxieties, took that first big step with a qualified accountability partner and created their path to freedom.   

The end result? One plan maximises time in the market resulting in a passive income of $2K and the other one creates a net wealth of $17M at retirement😮  

Tune in now to find out step-by-step how these folks will achieve this!  

 

P.S. Huge thank you to today’s guests for opening up about their journeys, we know it’ll inspire many folks in the community to take action.  

 

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Timestamps

  • 0:00 – “Stuff This!”: How to Tackle Financial Anxiety 
  • 2:43 – PICA Webinar: Stage 2 Property Reforms (QLD)  
  • 3:28 – Social reach out from Kurtis (Share the Ep you’re listening to on your socials!)  
  • 6:08 – Vale Steve Waters  
  • 8:46 – Mindset Minute: What is consistency?  
  • 13:05 – How MoneySMARTS saved this listener! 
  • 14:33 –  Moorr Upgrade Teaser! 
  • 16:31 – Case Study #1: Billy 
  • 20:20 – The magic of soundboards 
  • 22:06 – External Problems: A growing business & limited borrowing capacity  
  • 23:30 – Mortgage Savvy Brokers vs. Accountants  
  • 26:59 – The Internal Challenge 
  • 28:47 – The Plan: How to put more cards on the table  
  • 31:59 – Contingencies Amanda built into this “Single Gent Plan”  
  • 38:15 – How Billy is maximising his tax deductibility  
  • 39:44 – The end goal and his focused transformation  
  • 43:25 – Case Study #2: Liz and Michael  
  • 45:46 – The Anxiety Pitch 
  • 47:43 – Where did the stress and anxiety come from?  
  • 50:52 – Bryce & Ben’s experience with investing anxiety  
  • 55:09 – Google Maps Analogy: There is NO one-size-fits-all!  
  • 57:27 – The Epiphany: “Stuff this!”  
  • 58:41 – The Plan: The contingency child and education 
  • 1:03:54 – How this couple took action 
  • 1:07:25 – $17M at retirement and no more anxiety! 
  • 1:10:16 – Thank you to Amanda, Stu, Billy and Liz & Michael!  

And… 

  • 1:10:47 – Lifehack: A Bed-Time Routine for Strengthening Connection 
  • 1:14:25 – WMPN: Disturbing data from Victoria: House and land sales plummet  

RBA Cash Rate Mar 2024 | Are We Facing Challenges with Sticky Inflation?

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Welcome to the second RBA Rate Release of 2024!

Once again, our esteemed independent economist Evan Lucas and affable host, Ben Kingsley, reunite to decipher the latest economic trends and data in this month’s episode.

In this instalment, we embark on a journey into the realm of economics – endeavouring to unravel its rich tapestry and better understand its implications. Here’s a glimpse into the topics Ben & Evan will cover:

📈 Sticky Inflation in the US: We delve into inflation and its tenacity within the US economy, exploring its implications for consumers and businesses alike.

📊 Deep Dive into December GDP Quarter Numbers: We take a close look at the recently released GDP quarter numbers for the Australian market, seeking to glean insights into the underlying economic dynamics.

🏦 Bank of Japan’s Interest Rate Decision: Venture with us into the East as we explore the deliberations of the Bank of Japan regarding a potential rate “hike” after over 15 years, and its potential ripple effects on the global economic landscape.

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💡 Monetary Policy and its Limitations: We discuss the effectiveness of monetary policy as the sole tool for managing inflation, considering interest rate movements only impacts one-third of the Australian population.

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485 | Must the Plane Have Landed BEFORE I Retire?

By in Podcast, Property Investment, Q&A

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Is 64 too old to be starting a property portfolio?  

Must your investment property be fully funded by the time one retires?  

And why does investing with intention matter – even after you’ve acquired 5 properties?  

In today’s Q&A we’re answering these fantastic questions that explore the many layers folks should consider BEFORE they choose to enter or exit the property game.  

This episode highlights the importance of planning and intention, from calculating how much you really need (and gaining clarity around your next step) to why you shouldn’t invest in property like stepping stones. 

Plus, we have a Listener Tale (or horror story) highlighting why property management matters. Listen now! 

 

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Questions We Answer

Q1) How important is it that an investment property is fully funded by the time you retire? from Richard  

Hi Ben and Bryce, Richard here.

I just wanna start by thanking you both for everything that you do for the community. It’s real eye opener and it helps me to get my head in the right spaces.

I look towards everyone my house fully paid off and looking to start my 1st investment, but my question is, I’m 52 just about paying my own property out.

How important is it that an investment property is fully funded by the time you retire, or is it okay if it’s just looking after itself and can continue on for another few years, whilst your in retirement and fund itself in the background, if you can give us any help on that, that would be great.

Thank you.

 

Q2) Investing at 64 from Ralph 

Hi, I just wanna know if I can build a property portfolio at the age of 64. Thank you. 

 

Q3) Multiple IP’s already and wondering what to do next? from Matt   

Hi guys, it’s Matt here. 

I live down in Torquay, VIC. We have a number of investment properties: 2 in Queensland, 3 Victoria and we own our home. 

We own most of our investment properties. There is still a little bit of debt there. 

Basically, just looking for a financial plan or some advice as to what to do to move forward. I plan to step away from our business within the next five years and just see whether we can somehow live off the equity. 

I basically just want a plan and just maybe get you guys to have a look at our overall situation and offer some advice, and look forward to hear back from you. Bye. 

 

Listener Tale: The Importance of Property Management 

Hey Ben and Bryce, 

Just wanted to reach out and say Ep. 480. [How to Fail to Retire on $2k per week] 

Guys! This is phe . nom . enal ! I can relate to some if not all of the “how to fail to build” points you raised here. 

My true story goes a little something like this:  

I bought my first house and land package as a PPR just before the GFC hit and after living in it for a year, rented it out because I went off traveling the world in my mid 20s for the next 8/9 years. After the real estate agency secured what I thought was a good tenant, I gave them the flick and managed the property privately. Thought it was a great idea to save a few dollars on fee’s right. Those same tenants moved out 5 years later and I had to replace all the carpets, repaint the walls and replace some fans the kids had swung off of. Needless to say, the bond certainly didn’t cover this. I kept the bond and offered the tenants to pay the rest of the bill. Obviously, I heard crickets from them so had to pay the rest out of my own pocket. I had landlords insurance but this is a worst case insurance for me and I never use it to claim small things. Its just for the “what if the house burns down”. 

You’d think I’d learn right? Wrong. I went and got another tenant, funny enough it was the family next door and they were moving out of that house because it was up for sale. I saw an opportunity to save of management fees again and 2 weeks rent the real estate would have charged for finding a new tenant. The new family moved in under a private agreement. Sweet as right? Nope.. after trying to manage this house from a yacht somewhere in the Bahamas (which I worked on btw not owned) I found out while doing my own tax return one year that they had under paid me rent. I had to send them emails and show them spread sheets from a far of how much they were behind and it was more than 5 grand. I thought enough was enough and got a property manager to helped sort them out and they did pay me what I was owed and all was fine. 

But do you know what the kicker is, well it’s not keeping up with what the rental market is doing. I.e. rents around my house had gone up and considerably, but because I was managing this house myself from a far I didn’t have the finger on the pulse. After all of this learning, let me tell you fella’s.. I have now learnt! I maintained a property manager for this house from then on. 

That lesson had taught me about property management and it’s importance. What it didn’t teach was having the right strategy in place, and so I sold that house at roughly the 10 year mark (insert palm in face emoji). 

I can whole heartly say that the net of the money I 

saved in management fee’s over the years was surely a net negative and as you can see to top it off I sold the property and paid commission to do so. I can’t bring myself to check the growth of that suburb and what the house would be worth now or event to check what it’s rental yield would be. For context I sold it in 2022. 

Final point I’ll make on this and for people who may read this, I wish I got accredited professional help because my future self would have thanked me for it. My wife and I have now got that help through Empower Wealth and we are on a path of retribution. 

I am a dedicated listener to your podcast. Keep up the great work! 

You guys are my Joe Rogen! 

Cheers Trev. 

 

Timestamps

  • 0:00 – Must the Plane Have Landed BEFORE I Retire? 
  • 1:39 – The lengths we go through, Moorr webinar & a listener message!  
  • 7:29 – Mindset Minute: Rich vs Poor Mindset 
  • 12:17 – Q1) How important is it that an investment property is fully funded by the time you retire? 
  • 14:13 – If you wait, you rob yourself of the power of…  
  • 15:47 – We need to understand THIS before we start 
  • 18:05 – What your investment property should look like in retirement  
  • 19:34 – Why property investing isn’t like stepping stones  
  • 21:29 – “Strategy has to be informed by cashflow” 
  • 23:53 – Q2) Investing at 64 
  • 24:50 – Work back from your needs 
  • 27:39 – Considerations for older investors 
  • 28:13 – Why market cycle timing is important 
  • 30:13 – Access to funding & lenders  
  • 34:41 – Q3) Multiple IP’s already and wondering what to do next? 
  • 35:42 – Why intention matters!  
  • 36:42 – Should Matt live off equity?  
  • 38:46 – How to figure out what is possible 
  • 39:49 – When rates or costs of living go up, how does it affect a Living Off Equity strategy? 
  • 41:57 – This is a perfect “What if” example 
  • 44:06 – The 4 Expense Categories  
  • 45:59 – What living off equity means  
  • 46:45 – Listener Tale: The Importance of Property Management 
  • 50:42 – You either pay with money or time!  

And… 

  • 52:13 – Lifehack: With or Without Me energy  
  • 55:22 – WMPN: Moving the dial for women!  

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